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Too bad you probably do not use Maxthon Cloud browser, right Xilo? That way you could confirm the huge discrepancy issue regarding the Junk Files Created by Applications that I encountered between Wise Care 365 4.5.6.431 and Wise Disk Cleaner 9.41. But, no biggie. I just now ran test scans again and I have no trouble recreating the discrepancy. As I alluded to before, from the paths that I saw, those Junk Files findings are pretty much the Maxthon Cloud browser Cache. It's just really odd that Wise Care 365 finds them all and WDC finds none. At least we both confirmed that there was a huge welcome progress / fix with Wise Care 365. I downloaded the newer Wise Care 365 4.5.7.432 Portable this morning. I have to go install it and try it out. Although as per the changelog, there don't appear to be any changes to the actual functionality ... just the registering and activation. But, can't hurt to make sure that there are no regressions.

If you had really worked in software for many years and "done a lot with registry," you would have had a better understanding of what is going on. There is a reason the WiseCleaner Administrator pretty much echos what I said, only in a more succinct manner. I have seen / read the same logic in forum after forum. Your analogies were NOT remotely the same as working with the registry. You used the analogy of BUYING a car or a computer. If you really wanted your analogies to be the same as working with the registry ... use the analogy of REPAIRING / FIXING a car or a computer. In other words, if you're NOT a good Auto Mechanic or a good Computer Technician, you should not dive into trying to FIX a car or a computer ... because very undesirable consequences can result. But ... do as you wish. I'm 100% sure you're going to think my additional commentary is nonesense as well. So, no use me trying to offer more help. Hopefully the WiseCleaner Administrator will give you the answer for which you're looking.

All right, I have just finished checking out the latest Wise Care 365 Portable 4.5.6.431. Verdict? MUCH BETTER! (1) The Registry Cleaning function's scanning time improved a LOT! No more 4 minutes plus. I compared Wise Care 365's DEEP Scan against the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner's DEEP scan. This time around Wise Care 365's Registry Cleaning function scanning time was only between 44 to 47 SECONDS! YES! Very Good! It was still a tiny bit slower than the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner's 19 to 22 seconds, but still very good ... acceptable. It was very acceptable because on the plus side, I really liked that Wise Care 365's Registry Cleaning function's Results Layout was the old style that I prefer. AND it has noticeably better, more useful DETAILS vs the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner's new style Results Layout. (2) Then ... my testing revealed a HUGE advantage of Wise Care 365's Disk Cleaner function over the standalone Wise Disk Cleaner function. With all the settings set exactly the same between Wise Care 365 and the standalone Wise Disk Cleaner, there was mysteriously a HUGE discrepancy in the scans findings / results between the 2 apps. The HUGE discrepancy was in that in the Junk Files Created by Applications category ... Wise Care 365's Disk Cleaner function was obviously detecting my Maxthon Cloud Browser's 2000 plus Cache items. This while the standalone Wise Disk Cleaner 9.41's Junk Files Created by Applications category was detecting NOTHING ... ZERO! That's right. My standalone Wise Disk Cleaner Portable 9.41 was not detecting, not seeing, not finding my Maxthon Cloud Browser's 2000 plus Cache items while Wise Care 365 4.5.6.431's Disk Cleaner function WAS. Sooo ... I'm guessing that's a BUG in Wise Disk Cleaner 9.41. Because I can't believe there should be such a glaring discrepancy in the Junk Files Created by Applications category between the 2 apps. So overall ... bottom line --- Good job and Kudos to the Wise Devs for the huge improvement on Wise Care 365! I'm impressed and happy. Now it's standalone Wise Disk Cleaner that needs a looksee to see what's going on in that Junk Files Created by Applications category. I still have to explore and test some of the other functions in Wise Care 365.

I'm almost sure that I have put in this request before and obviously it fell into an abyss of it didn't happen. Okay, here goes Take II ... this time with a screen capture for illustration. As you can see in the attached screen cap, all the rest of the apps in my PortableApps.com platform menu are real nicely titled to where one knows at a glance what exactly they are. THEN you see down there at 2nd from the bottom outlined in the red box where it says "WiseCleaner.com." What the ....? That certainly doesn't specify at a glance remotely what the app is. Well, it happens to be Wise Registry Cleaner. WHY not have it specify exactly what it is just like all the other apps? That's all I'm asking. Just a simple request to have the menu title display "Wise Registry Cleaner" or "Wise Registry Cleaner Portable." That would be extremely helpful and greatly appreciated.

pstein, I have a Rule of Thumb that you can use in that area. It is the Rule of Thumb that I use when using ANY Cleaning App, especially when dealing in the Registry area. The Rule of Thumb is: If you don't know what something is (any of the items the scan found) and don't know what the consequences of removing it would be ... then leave it alone. Do NOT delete it. Do NOT allow the Cleaning App to "FIX" it. For example: In my case, when I use the Fast Scan, the Wise Registry Cleaner doesn't find anything in the ActiveX / COM Components category. However, the Deep Scan WILL find 14 items. But, in viewing the information of those 14 items that the Deep Scan finds, I don't recognize anything. I cannot decipher anything. I do not know what any of those 14 items are related to. Thus, I do not know what the consequences would be of removing any of those 14 items. So, I just leave them alone. I do not delete them.

Oh, it wasn't an optical illusion. You did confirm it before. I actually meant to write, "Thanks for confirming that AGAIN, Xilo" at the beginning of my previous comment. It just got away from me.

Thanks for confirming that, Xilo. The thing was whether, as is the case with any software product when an issue is discussed on that product's forum ... there was the unknown of whether the Devs had already seen this thread and / or already knew about the issue. A lot of times on various forums, we're left to wonder whether our feedback was ever even seen. Anyway, cool. We'll wait and hope that on some later version these issues are fixed.

Yeah, I unfortunately concur that at some point almost assuredly, Wise will also end support for Windows XP with their products. Pretty much all software developers are headed in that direction in one timeframe or another.

I know Wise and Glarysoft don't use the same code and the same Devs. But, no matter how it gets reasoned and explained away ... inferior functionality shouldn't be excused / given a pass simply for the convenience of being part of an All In One package. No matter how the functions get executed / carried out behind the scenes by ANY of this type of apps, bottom line, no ands, ifs or buts, the Registry Cleaner function within Wise Care 365 takes a mega LONG time vs ANY of this type of app be it All In One or standalone. I use CCleaner, Glary Disk Cleaner, Glary Tracks Eraser, Glary Utilities, JetClean, Wise Disk Cleaner, Wise Registry Cleaner and even some of the tools within Revo Uninstaller. And NONE of those take anywhere remotely close to 4 minutes to accomplish any of their scanning functions. They all take seconds. What the reason is for the mega LONG scanning time with Wise Care 365's Registry Cleaner function, I have no idea. The bottom line reality is that it exists. And I sure hope that they do fix the issue so that I can use Wise Care 365. Cuz I do like and use some of the other great Wise products like Wise Disk Cleaner, Wise Registry Cleaner, Wise Program Uninstaller and Wise Video Downloader. I've never tried a Registry Defragger, be it a Wise product or any other app. Defragging the Registry makes me wayyy too leery of disaster. If I were to FUBAR my computer into a non-booting status all because of too much curiosity with defragging the Registry, that would be it. My computer would be toast. I don't have the System Recovery / Windows Reinstall CD for it. So I just leave that area of maintenance alone.

Great to see you dropping by to report and chime in on this problem with Wise Care 365, Cloaker. The more users that pop in and mention their similar problems, the more evidence there is and the more theoretical likelihood that the Wise Devs will look into this. The $64,000 question is: HAS so much as ONE Wise Dev already seen this thread? I'm hoping, assuming that Xilo as a Moderator has connections with the Devs and has maybe given them a heads up. As to whether this is a bug or not? Well, I see it this way. The Glary Disk Cleaner and Glary Tracks Eraser within Glary Utilities 5.69 that I installed just the other day function EXACTLY as and take the SAME amount of time to scan as the standalone versions of those 2 apps. Therefore, I see no reason why the Wise Registry Cleaner within Wise Care 365 shouldn't function EXACTLY as and take the SAME amount of time to scan as the standalone version of Wise Registry Cleaner. Otherwise, what use is it? The idea is to with Wise Care 365 have a one stop, all tool maintenance bonanza within ONE app. The way it stands right now, it'd be a case of something like --- oh, most of its tools are fine ... just don't use the Registry Cleaner and the Registry Defrag. It wouldn't be that desired ONE app treasure chest.

I didn't get around to checking much of any of the other functions in Wise Care 365. I was quickly turned off by the fact that the Registry Cleaner function, which I use often and regularly, was obviously seriously flawed. I immediately figured, "With this major Pterodactyl in the Oinment, I'm not gonna be adding Wise Care 365 to my Flash Drive arsenal of tools. So, I cut my exploration session way short.

I no longer have Wise Care 365 installed. But, as I recall, it didn't have a Fast scan mode. It only had Default, Safe and Custom modes. I believe I tried both Default and Safe modes and they were pretty much the same ... LONG. On the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner 9.38, the Fast scan took the aforementioned 13 seconds. The Deep scan took 20 seconds. They all check all the categories. I agree that the ActiveX category is the most time-consuming of all the categories. But, even then, the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner 9.38 takes only 7 seconds with the ActiveX category. This while Wise Care 365 takes several eternities with the ActiveX category. So yeah, I agree ... there's something definitely wrong with Wise Care 365. For example, I installed Glary Utilities Portable 5.69 on that same day. And neither its Glary Tracks Eraser nor its Glary Disk Cleaner take remotely ANYWHERE near 4 minutes. Neither did my old Glary Utilities Portable 2.56. And neither does JetClean. Well, hopefully the Devs see this thread.

So what's the deal with Wise Care 365? Does it by any chance require, only work on very fast and powerful computers? Is there a minimum Processor that a computer must have in order for Wise Care 365 to work properly? Last year when I first tried Wise Care 365, it was on my old Dell GX280 Small Form Factor with only a Pentium 4 processor and either 1 or 2 Gig of RAM running Windows XP Home SP3. As I recall, as soon as I would try the Registry Cleaner function, my GX280's CPU fan would quickly start spinning at top speed, sounding like a helicopter. And the scanning would immediately go into a snail's pace crawl to the point that I would quickly have to abort. Yet, the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner (PortableApps.com version) would scan quickly, without a problem and without remotely making my GX280 break a sweat. Now that I have a Dell Optiplex 780 with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 4 Gig of RAM running Windows XP Pro SP3, the other day I again decided to give Wise Care 365 another shot. This computer being a much more powerful and quieter computer, the CPU fan does not go into top speed helicopter mode when running a scan with the Registry Cleaner function. But, the scan does take a noticeably, undeniably LONG time at 4 minutes and 35 seconds! That while the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner took all of 13 seconds ... and found the SAME 41 items that it took Wise Care 365's Registry Cleaner function 4 minutes and 35 seconds to find. So what's going on? (1) Is Wise Care 365 not meant for older, weak Pentium era computers with Windows XP? (2) Why does the Wise Care 365 Registry Cleaner function take wayyy longer to complete a scan vs. the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner ... while finding the same amount of items? From what I see, I'm tempted to reason that maybe it's that the Wise Care 365 Registry Cleaner function is wayyy more thorough than the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner ... even though ultimately the same amount of items are found by both. Because it's not like the Wise Care 365 Registry Cleaner function is scanning at a crawl on my Dell Optiplex 780. No. I see that it's actually scanning very speedily. It appears to be checking a lot of something. Unless it's an optical illusion, I'm tempted to think that the Wise Care 365 Registry Cleaner function scans a ton more Registry Entries than the standalone Wise Registry Cleaner. I just keep going back to that in the end, ultimately both apps find the same amount of items. Odd.

I have downloaded it and taken it out for some spins. As to the whether I like it or not? Considering that of course it's in its 1st Beta, sure, I'm liking what I'm seeing as a good foundation. Hopefully it progresses to grow into the level of prowess of the other fine Wise products that I also like. That said ... Okay, now for some feedback. Right now my Media Player of choice is VLC Media Player. So, all of my feedback will be referenced / compared to what perks I like about that Media Player. A separate STOP button would be very helpful and appreciated instead of just a Pause button as is the case right now. A Video Zoom menu from which to select between 1:4 Quarter ... 1:2 Half ... 1:1 Original ... 2:1 Double would be nice. For example: Right now a few of my videos are very small physical size, maybe 320px wide or so. They have a decent file size to where I can zoom them to Double size and still get decent resolution. Going Full Screen mode with those is too much and won't yield decent resolution. Then there are some of my other videos, which have a default big physical size, but their resolution is a bit fuzzy. So, I prefer to view those in Half size. A finer level of control on the Volume Control would be great. And with the % indication displaying upon hovering on it. Because on a lot of my videos I already have a solid idea of at what % volume I listen to them as the volume requirement of course varies between videos. So, I like to quickly set the volume to the % that I recall for each video. An Audio option to select - Always reset audio start level to xx%. For example: Since my videos vary widely as to at what % volume I'm going to listen to them, I have my Media Player set to always come up at 48% volume as a good place to start so it won't be too loud. From there I adjust it as need be. My webm videos are currently not being recognized. Wise Media Player is being promoted as playing any format videos. And I even see on the GUI that it says "webm." So, I'm guessing webm capability will be added soon? I noticed that when I have Wise Video Player in NON-Full Screen mode and I minimized the window ... the audio cuts out completely and won't resume until the window is maximized again. In other words, Wise Video Player will not play audio unless the Media Player window is actually DISPLAYING ... and as the forefront window at that. So that needs to be fixed. I noticed that some of my videos on VLC normally start out by default in their full blown 1280px wide format / size ... videos that have plenty of file size to look great at that size. On Wise Video Player, those same videos start out by default at a smaller size. I then have to manually maximize them to their normal, bigger size. So that has to be fixed. Or at least have a setting to select the option of choice. Incorporate the capability of taking a Snapshot. Add to Windows Context Menu - Play with Wise Video Player. In the future, make available a Portable version.

Hmmm ... that's odd. Now that I've gone back up to Maxthon Cloud 4.9.4.2000, it now works. It might have been a flawed install before when it didn't work. Thanks for your effort, Xilolee!

TESTING --- This is a test.

I'll probably use the [email protected] route so as not to fill this thread up with YouTubes. Thanks, Xilo.

Roger Wilco!

I have now gone back down and installed Maxthon Cloud 4.9.3.1000. The verdict? It appears that that fixed the problems. So, I guess there IS some bug with the newer Maxthon version 4.9.4.2000 that is causing the problems in question. Right now it's getting late. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to post up the issue on the Maxthon forum.

Ooooooo! Heyyy! BAMM! Bingo! Good call, Xilolee. That was the problem. I am now typing this reply from my secondary / backup browser --- Opera 36.0.2130.65 and the problems have been neutralized. Cuz actually, there was even a third issue I hadn't even mentioned, but it's now been fixed as well with the use of Opera. That third symptom was that the Attributes Bar wouldn't even display. So when you mentioned trying that button above the BOLD button, I immediately went, "What BOLD button? I can't even get the Attributes Bar to display anymore." Anyway, my normal browser is Maxthon Cloud 4.9.4.2000. That is the browser with which I was getting those 3 problems. It's possible that the culprit is THAT specific version of Maxthon, its latest. I say this because I know I didn't used to experience those problems before and that's probably because before, I used to use the 4.9.3.1000 version of Maxthon Cloud. A bit later and into the evening, let me experiment by going back to that 4.9.3.1000 version of Maxthon and see if that fixes the problems Maxthon wise. If that gets things working back to normal, I guess I'll then go to the Maxthon forums and inform them of the incompatibility issues or just plain ole BUG. I'll let you know the verdict sometime later, Xilolee. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

I don't know if it's just on my side, but I've been noticing some problems with the functionality of the forums. (1) If I try to post a reply in a thread via the "Reply to this topic" box at the bottom of the thread ... nothing happens. The reply doesn't remotely attempt to get posted. I end up having to use the Black "Reply to this topic" BUTTON at the upper right of the page. (2) The next issue: Well, I was planning on attaching a screen capture image to show the problem that I'm encountering, but the problem is that I'm not being allowed to attach an image because the problem IS right at that area. So, I'll try to explain the problem. Right there at the "Attach Files" area at the bottom left of the reply box ... where the "Choose Files" BUTTON is --- some other text that appears to read "uldn't load plug" is being superimposed on the Choose Files BUTTON. This is rendering the Choose Files BUTTON non-functional. In case it helps zero in on the problem --- I am using Windows XP Pro SP3. I am using the latest version of avast Free Anti-Virus. I am using NetZero Dial Up Internet.

Great. You mentioned I could e-mail you the links of those non-working YouTubes. What e-mail address would that be? Or do I report those HERE in this thread?

Oh, okay. Thanks. Keep up the good work.

Cool. Looking forward to seeing Wise Video Downloader's progress.

That worked. But, from what I see, it is the same version number - 9.38.610 as what I mentioned hadn't worked before. Wouldn't a revised version have a new version number?